Dear Abel & Sofi: My Office Literally Stinks, Woes Over B.O.
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Dear Abel & Sofi,
I have a very uncomfortable topic to bring up that’s been bugging me for a long time. I work in a small business with MANY fitness enthusiasts, but it’s not a gym. It’s a regular office. And we have a bunch of people who, in nice weather, ride bikes miles and miles to work.
Hey, I’m happy they’re fit and trim and trying to be healthy. But what’s not healthy is the nausea I get when I’m sitting next to them. God help me, some days I actually feel faint. I mean as a woman I know my nose is more sensitive, so the stench hits me harder. But I didn’t sign up to work as a locker room attendant.
Some people may think this is a silly thing to complain about, but sometimes the odors are so bad, I find it hard to concentrate on my job. These people STINK TO HIGH HEAVEN.
Is there a PC way for me to handle this? Do I leave some deodorant on a few desks with anonymous notes? Do I send funny memes about B.O. to everyone so the stinkers get the hint? Or do I just spend even more time working from home? It’s not even super hot outside yet, and this stinky situation is bound to get even worse. HELLLPPPP!
Sincerely, Hot & Bothered By B.O.
Abel:
Dear Hot & Bothered,
This problem is more prevalent in businesses than you know, especially for those of you with superior olfactory senses.
On the positive side, despite your degree of discomfort, you’re still trying to take the high road – by asking for advice. On the negative side, you can’t just be working from home all the time as you’ll probably miss too much and could run the risk of being out of sight, out of mind.
If your company has an HR person or someone else who handles personnel matters, it’s time to bring this up in a very professional way to her or him. Ask for advice on how to best handle the situation, and that’s a great way to get the HR person to say, “You’re not the first one to bring that up. Let me take care of it.”
I would avoid all of the stunts that you suggested (maybe in jest, maybe not)! Those could be seen as juvenile by people who don’t understand your plight. In a small business, someone would figure out that you did those things, and it all could backfire on you, which would be ridiculous.
That said, one time when I was working in an office where people regularly ate foods full of all kinds of scents – vinegar, curry, strong cheeses – I plugged in an air freshener or two before anyone got into the office and let them run all the time. And maybe having one of those personal fans at your desk pushing bad scents away would be a good idea, as well.
Good luck with all of it and let us know how it turns out.
Best, Abel
Sofi:
GURL, I hear you! As women, we’re the first ones to notice when something or someone SMELLS FUNKY.
Problem is, sometimes that person is so used to their own body odor, they don’t even notice it anymore. That’s why, as Dad said, it’s best to very professionally bring it up to someone at your workplace who has authority and can nicely address it. And in the meantime, I like the personal fan and the scented plug-in ideas, too.
To show you that you’re far from alone, at my salon, I have some customers who have bad breath almost all of the time. I always offer them water, tea and/or a strong mint before I color their hair. I just have to do it, for their sake and mine. I can’t conduct business in a friendly manner with people who have breath that smells like the bottom of a birdcage. It’s not fair to them or me.
And I have the sweaty hot yoga ladies who rush in after their sessions, too. I try to make those appointments as brief as possible and sit them near a slightly open window. In your case, maybe there are some windows you can open in the office to take the sting out of the stink.
Finally, I have to tell you about a boss I had right out of school. He had a private office and when you’d catch him at a bad moment, the whole office smelled as if he was passing gas for hours. I had to discuss something with him once and was forced to make that convo very short, as my eyes were literally beginning to water.
So I feel your pain, more often than I’d like. Hoping you at least got a laugh out of our stories, along with a couple of solid tips to solve this nagging problem.
Good luck! Sofi ❤️
As always, Alignable members, please feel free to offer your own advice and commentary below.
Comments (1-10)
If there is a local gym close by, perhaps an arrangement can be made to allow employees to freshen up on their way to the office although this might be more difficult to arrange.
Wishing you the sweet smell of success!
Next step, I would start a whisper campaign about "health in the workplace" subjects.... It may take a while, but keep talking and offering articles and other info around how the office on the subject of how you all can benefit from an "malicious odor-free" workplace. Marketing works, and you can change public opinion.
Additionally, think, if you had food or something worse on your face wouldn't you want someone to tell you rather than wearing it all day? Talk about embarrassing! Mr/Mrs stink will thank you for bring things to their attention honestly and in private
For the office person that needs help, I can think of a couple of ways. First, many places use signs saying that this is an odorous free place which in many cases they are referring to aftershave and perfumes but it can apply to those with BO or stink from cigarette smoke. Secondly, it should be the job of the office manager to speak directly to all employees.
I spent my life in construction so there are other ways to articulate this issue but they are not suitable for office use.
My two cents worth,
Have a great day,
Tyler.
Sadly we have a genius among my employees that is the nicest among us but also the scuzziest. odors like old well used tennis shoes, where the same clothing for weeks on end,
I gave all my employees nice combined winter /summer light jackets last christmas with our company name/logo embroidered into the upper chest. Well one evening I was working late and happen to pass his desk and noticed roaches crawling around his area. Long story short I opened his lower desk draw to find their meeting spot. A bowl 1/2 filled with beans and in direct contact with the top surface of the beans my christmas present soaking in the bean juice, of course crawling with roaches. I took pictures then since it was Friday evening and did not want to allow the roaches a wk end dinning experience so I took the bowl and washed it along with the nice jacket then hung it on a a hanger to properly dry. On Monday morning I had a personal meeting with him and started the conversation with telling him that I was not happy with his hygiene and added that I realized that we were starting to have a roach issue and found the culprit. Then showed my pictures hopefully awaiting a make sense statement from this professional. He instead giggled (of nervousness), then said yes those little critters are everywhere aren't they, ha ha. He went on to explain that we live in their world and have to realize that. His supervisor says to let the engineer go would hurt our company, due to the many years of training and intellect bank this fellow has acquired with our specialized highly technical type products etc. So I started trying to instead become his friend, taking him to lunch and just flat out asking him nicely (for the sake of others well being in the office), to start changing his hygiene practices. He is often sick and I believe it has to do with his atrocious eating and soda drinking habits. Some possibly through my trying to help him with taking the initiative of buying him some healthy smoothy powders
and vegetables such as spinach, apples blueberries, black berries bananas etc. I actually got him off of the normal routine of sipping his big gulp all day long and with the blender I bought he seems to enjoy the healthier smoothies. Keeping my fingers crossed. We live in a generation to where some younger people are taking their body's needs and healthy habits more seriously then others. I am trying my best to help anyone that is in trouble with health issues since I have spent so much time doing research on natural cures to cancer etc.
Side note: Am shocked to realize that our oncologists and big Pharma have so detrimentally let us down. So we must take matters into our own hands to achieve a better and healthier life. My dad used to say, if you are an engineer and make a mistake it is there for the whole world to laugh at, if you are an oncologist you merely bury your mistake and get paid big bucks doing it. humm? --> end of side note.
Our problem child employee has started buying his own vegetables and smoothie powders
and looks and seems to be on a better journey, just hoping he get's it. As for being a better steward of his office area I have added to his Friday routine the fact that he gets an hour of his pay to go around and helps clean up our office complex. I am not his Dad, and with the employee rights today, must tread lightly due to all the discrimination and harassment policies that exist today. A seemingly impossible tight rope path in allowing us to run our small companies. Wish I could give better guidance on this issue, but maybe try to get closer with the sinners and find their hot buttons (needs), to help them realize they are hurting yours.
Yes, I agree that leaving messages etc. just does not work on the long term, just creates tension and anger.
Geo.